Conflicting values is nothing new. WATCH: Kamala Harris and Michael B. Jordan Open NBA All Star Game By Encouraging Vaccinations and Praising HBCUs Gov. Many of you might be familiar with this guy, he's the guy who's been quite prolific about the Ezra's Eagle prophecy. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return - 2020 Edition (4.76 avg rating, 79 ratings, 16 reviews), Eleven (4.62 avg rating, 8 ratings, 1 r. Home My Books Thats my kind, naturally . and Sis. including by not limited to: legal, investing, financial, medical, accounting, or any other professional advice. by Lemarque August 20th, 2021, 9:06 pm, Post And now about their doc. Let me explain what Mike Stroud is really teaching: He is teaching a practice called astral Projection though he never uses that word. The job of church leaders is to try to lead the Church by the Spirit. Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days [John Pontius] on Amazon.com. Our experience and study in the gospel is always personal and you are viewed and deemed a heretic if you even mentioned in public a vision, revelation or something that we absolutely preach that is possible and all of our pioneer ancestors received experienced. Oh thats right theyre anonymous. See: List of Latter-day Saints for current members of the LDS Church. LDSFreedomForum.com does not necessarily agree with all content posted by users of this forum. The Church will make some faction angry with any move they make. 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And as the author rightly conceded he never actually used the term astral projection. And he always states if he is giving his own opinion about something and it is only to be considered by the guidance of the spirit. 2 Ne 9:28 Even though many people have heard Gods voice, received instruction from God or various angels, they are usually instructed either by scripture or by inspiration to not publish such revelations. Rush. Its how this world works. Schism, at least in the sense that the United Methodists are now facing, seems like a very distant notion to me. The ruling of his stake on this matter may indicate otherwise. Many forums consider them to be problem members and some have removed them altogether. Less than two weeks later, Sister Wendy Nelson declared that the frequency and abundance of messages from heaven have increased exponentially since her husband became the president. - by Michael B Rush Free Download - See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here Michael B Rush wrote this book as a Michael B. Excommunication. In Elder Oaks talk Be Not Deceived he also did not teach that we should fear deception. Where are they today? (Myers) Rush on December 22, 1981 in Dallas County, Texas and they separated on July 5, 1984. I hoped for the best but unfortunately it was shortly after that meeting when his accusers began to open fire. But he never told him not to take heed of deception. i quickly learned that I was already ahead in scripture study of anyone nearby to ask, and that asking some questions caused alarm in my home teacher. [Nope. Mike is addressing this subject which the author refutes as not based on scripture or the words of prophets. The truth is they dont really know much about it themselves, aside from what theyve heard from other spooks and online sources. The lies will be exposed and the truth will spill out like water. I didnt get that from Mike Stroud. 97. Referring to the changes in priesthood quorums and ministering announced at the April general conference, Elder Holland quipped that he wasnt sure how many more rushes of revelation members of the Church could handle from President Nelson. He taught this not only in his podcasts but to private groups of people that he mentored. So I had a lady call me up a while back and she is up in Utah and she said brother Stroud can I share with you this experience, and I said please do it.She says I saw man and I dont know if I was in a dream or vision, I dont know what it was, but I saw man and he was standing in the distance and he was looking at me. Michael B Rush wrote this book as a study into The Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. The Christian Century, Volume 119 Number 7, March 27-April 3, 2002. by Jeff Schogol, Robert B. Horine, et al. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. So Im going to love. It was inappropriate for me to teach that that the Church of Latter-day Saints is Aaronic in nature and preparatory to the Melchizedek priesthood institution referred to in scripture as the Church of the Firstborn. I have found much goodness and that which is lovely and of good report and praiseworthy in this mans podcasts. Its okay that Wilford Woodruff had the vision of the founding fathers asking him why their work wasnt done (even though it had been done previously) but its not okay if someone else has them? While the church doesn't regularly provide information about excommunication or resignation, those listed here have made such information public. Maybe, Mike was a bit naive about this and in hindsight, it probably would have been better to not post the meeting on youtube. Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. So if Stroud was declared apostate for teaching questionable doctrine, those are the obvious trouble spots.[1]. Michael B. 85, no.2 , The JV Club #29: nerdist.com/the-jv-club-29-cara-santa-maria/, Mahonri Young: His Life and Art; Thomas Toone, Signature Books, 1997, Learmouth, Michael (September 16, 1999). And unrighteous dominion thrives. And that is where I differ with Mike. If were not supposed to strive for these things, then what are the stories for? Perhaps, Id better serve my own desire for Zion by showing more zeal instead of being pessimistic. Rush ultimately got his way. While I still dont know the specific basis of the determination of apostacy, your comment provides some context in addition to those few podcasts, Mary Anns article, and Bellamys comments. They will range over the earth, visit distant friends, and, for aught we know, the planets, and accomplish great feats; do that which will enhance our happiness, increase to us every enjoyment of life, and prepare us for celestial glory; but when we wake in the morning, it is all gone from us; we have forgotten it.. And unrighteous dominion thrives. Mike did tell this man that if he wanted to learn the mysteries of God, he should not be afraid of deception. Have they approached the tree of life? It is the ability to connect with god in this life that makes the gospel important. Which leads into Jackson County Missouri and the New Jerusalem. Fear of deception is deception. There are curious minds around here (other than mine) who would like to know, as they dont understand the decision. | Jan 1, 2002. I have served on the HC in multiple stakes HC , Temple worker in multiple temples HP group leader and my real claim to fame SM twice totaling 6 years, released when I turn 70 and presently teach an Institute class. I can remember my father going to the True Order of Prayer prayer circles held each month in our stake. The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. And there are other examples from the past year. And yet the excommunications continue. I quite like Michael Rush. Now after getting someone excommunicated and probably getting another podcaster taken down, they are also developing an appetite for it. Alas, it is so widespread that to fill the roles in a typical ward one might have to dig into the barrel and choose some people that ought not to be chosen. That passion for Mormon doctrine did not prevent his 2003 excommunication from the LDS Church. Such are the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and as such, will ensure that we remain separated from Him and from each other. Why not? [1] There were a few other moments in the podcasts where I cringed, but I doubt they wouldve played into any discipline. Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days Nelsen, Transition Integrity Project - full document, Rich Higgins National Security Council Memo - Deep State, Article on the Pentagon and unidentified aerial phenomenon, Marco Rubio on off-world crafts in our top-secret air space. This to me is in direct opposition to living to truly love your neighbor and embodying Christ-like love in all our interactions with one another. Did you think to ask Father in heaven to forgive you of your sin in the name of Jesus Christ? That by itself, of course, wouldnt make such an instruction appropriate, but it would authorize an excommunication for Mormon-speak apostacy. Utah Historical Quarterly. And honestly, the elephant in the room is: I remember reading this recently (already had it marked) because I am studying Isaiah right now, and he has it completed backwards and is taking it out of context. Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. I first wrote about Mike Stroud in September 2017, several months after Id been introduced to his podcasts by a wardmember. (Myers) Rush on December 22, 1981 in Texas and they later separated on July 5, 1984 in Texas . Christ also told us that by their fruits shall we know them. When you start trying to define the difference between highly unlikely but inspired and highly unlikely and crazy (which is a very fine line, I think), youre playing a losing game, IMHO. Learn how your comment data is processed. Podcast 05: Spending Sacred Holy Time With The Lord Jesus Christ, the frequency and abundance of messages from heaven have increased exponentially, She testified of how real and true the concept of modern revelation from the Lord to His prophet really is., Mike Stroud Has Been Excommunicated Latter-day Commentary Last Days Signs of the Times, End-Times Visionary Julie Rowe Excommunicated Wheat & Tares, Jana Riess: Chad Daybells strange end times beliefs are not Mormon theology, says historian .U.S.A.-News. Fenerbahe Players 2020, ' (Podcast 012: 1 Nephi 12, abt 47:25) This is a perfect example of why people have mixed feelings about Lamanite identification. There was a nice girl in one of his classes who was popular, very spiritual and had a very kind heart. when we lie down to sleep, our minds are often as bright and active as the mind of an angel, at least they are as active as when our bodies are awake. I do write down what Im told what I learn, often in a blog post of my own. 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